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First and foremost, I would want to express my highest admiration for the many forum users that engage in their own repair tasks. Regrettably, I am not skilled in maintaining my automobiles and so rely on automotive experts to ensure their proper functioning.

My spouse and I acquired a visually appealing previously used 2010 Range Rover Sport HSE L320 with a mileage of 140,000 from a dealership in Tennessee. We acquired the item at a favourable cost (about $8k) and were aware that we would need to allocate a few further dollars to improve its mechanical condition - I estimated an expenditure of roughly $5k at most. Our optimism was tempered by prudence, since the sole warning on the display was for the air suspension. Neither the check engine light nor any codes were being produced.

Due to the presence of a single unresolved recall on the vehicle, we scheduled a service appointment with a Land Rover shop located outside of our local area in order to rectify the issue, since there were no nearby Land Rover dealerships available. In addition, we requested a comprehensive examination to see whether there were any other issues that need attention.

The unexpected discovery and the subsequent repair expenses took us by surprise:
The cost of the ride height sensor is $1580.
The cost of front and rear air struts is $8300.
The cost of front lower control arms is $3000.
The cost for the timing chain and its related components is $12,500.

An additional $4000 was spent on brake repair, replacement of the Sirius Radio module, alignments, bulb replacements, and several other minor services. The total expenditure amounted to $28,000.

I have complete confidence that these fixes are really essential. As previously said, I lack mechanical aptitude and must rely on the expertise of others. However, do the rates mentioned align with the anticipated costs for these repairs? Regrettably, we are unable to provide $28,000 towards the purchase of a 15-year-old car due to financial constraints. My wife is quite distressed. Undoubtedly, it was essential for us to do this inspection before purchasing the car. We contacted other mechanics in the area, but none had sufficient expertise on Range Rovers to assess them.

Uncertain about the course of action to take at this juncture. whether I could get the principal concerns resolved for a sum of $10,000, I would probably proceed with the endeavour. However, I am uncertain whether such an outcome is feasible. Are you suggesting that an independent and skilled technician could be able to provide a lower pricing than the dealership service department? I am uncertain.

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The price of $8300 for front air struts is exorbitant and constitutes blatant exploitation. You have the option to have the task completed by any privately-owned store for a cost that is between one-eighth and one-fourth of the original price. I have come across reports and corrections about timing chains in the price range of $4,000 to $8,000. I had the lower control arms replaced on our 2010 sport vehicle for a total cost of $473 at a nearby specialised repair shop for Land Rover vehicles. Do not lose hope due to their exorbitant and outrageous prices.

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What is the reason for not doing it? Yes, I do!


Exhibit intelligence. It is not possible to purchase a Rover that is 10 years or older and expect the dealer to accept any amount of money without question.
To be eligible for participation in Rovership, one must possess a high level of intelligence, a low level of intelligence, or a significant amount of wealth.
These dealerships specifically target customers that fall into the second and third demographic segments.

Conduct a comparison between your car and a Toyota Land Cruiser. At that age, they are about three times more expensive. Used Rovers are inexpensive for a specific reason.
You must locate an autonomous establishment that is not inclined to deceive or overcharge you.

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I own a 2012 Range Rover Sport. I visited the dealership to address a recall, and during the inspection, they discovered issues with my vehicle that amounted to a value exceeding $10,000. After obtaining a hard copy of all the diagnostic reports, I proceeded to meticulously investigate each issue and discovered that it was rather straightforward to resolve them on my own.
Persevere

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Indeed, I had a like situation with warranty repairs on other vehicles such as a '68 FIAT, the BMW "Bavaria," Dodge Aspen, Jeep Wagoneer, and Ford Bronco. After enduring such frustrating experiences, I decided to cease visiting any authorised dealerships. For any matter or subject.

After a span of almost 40 years? The lesson remains valid.

Is there a recall for the outlet flange or filter on the L320? It is more cost-effective for me to personally handle the expenses of doing anything myself rather than paying for transportation to and from a dealership, as well as temporary wheels.

It is not just JLR.

Any comparably intricate contemporary automobile is equipped with a multitude of components that need regular maintenance, beyond the imagination of my 1952 Ford "flathead" which lacked such advancements.

The only thing that the old vehicle had ever requested was a monthly supply of "STP", which was available at a very affordable price at the "PX". The viscosity of the 50 W motor oil was insufficient to adequately lubricate the worn-out rings and bearings. The acquisition cost from the original owner is $90 USD. The annual operational cost amounts to $90, denominated in US dollars. Subsequently, my mother sold the deceased body for a sum of $75 in order to remove it from her garden, following my departure in a second-hand Triumph TR3 valued at $600.

The price of a loaf of bread is 18 cents. The price of petrol is 18.9 cents per US gallon. Are tyres available for purchase for a price of $13? Is the minimum wage first set at 88 cents per hour and subsequently increased to $1.25?

The price of "Bunker C" fuel oil is 9 British Pounds, Sterling per TONNE, not per gallon.

The passage of time has progressed. Has the price of motorcars increased? Is the currency valueless?

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The cost of the ride height sensor is $1580. The item in question has a maximum cost of $175 for an authentic unit. Its installation can be completed in about one hour, even under the influence of alcohol. Additionally, if the vehicle is uncooperative, it may take another hour to properly adjust the suspension.

Avoid bringing your automobile to a dealer for any reason, unless it is for recall repair, although they are likely to mishandle it.

By visiting this topic, you have taken a positive step towards finding a reputable business in your region. I am certain that the forum members will be able to assist you in locating a suitable establishment. The costs are exorbitant. It is possible to transport your automobile to our shop, have it repaired, and have it returned to you at a cost lower than the amount mentioned.

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I am rolling on the floor laughing!

Now I understand the reason why it takes me a longer time to complete tasks. I will need to start consuming alcohol in order to reduce the duration of the distressing period. Or at least enhance the ability to overcome the rigid muscles?

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It is fairly uncommon for individuals with one set of talents to realise that those with a DISTINCT set of skills also have expenses to recoup. Count yourself fortunate that you did not make the purchase of a motor sailboat with a wooden hull. An aeroplane that has had an annual inspection would have posed less danger if it had been utilised.

In addition to requiring brake repairs, my 2011 vehicle has also had issues with its cooling system and is now undergoing maintenance for the timing chain. Alternatively, it may be necessary to completely rebuild the V8 engine, starting from the lower part and working upwards. I am capable of doing it, and it is not a new or unfamiliar experience for me.

The original cost is $14,000, with an additional amount allocated for repairs, bringing the total expenditure to roughly $30,000.

However, the allocated budget is intended to sustain me until my retirement at the age of 90, which is in 11 years, or 13 years after its purchase.

Currently, it is not possible for me to get a car by leasing or renting for a monthly cost of $200. Furthermore, this will remain unattainable for a duration of at least 10 years in the future. There are few motorcars on this world that are as gratifying as Jaguars and Rovers, especially when they are functioning optimally. Indeed, it seems to be a favourable arrangement, anyway.

The 2005 Jaguar has significantly superior performance metrics, partially attributed to the fact that CARFAX records indicate that it received a brand new engine as a gift while still covered by warranty.

Both amounts include around $6,000 worth of work that was not performed by me personally.

Returning to your initial point:

I would estimate that the total value of the items there is around $5,000, consisting of components purchased at reasonable costs, neither from official dealers nor of low quality. Amidst all of that.

Certain tasks are safety-critical and need immediate attention. Additional components may be planned for completion over a period of up to one year, or perhaps even longer.

As an illustration:

Even an ambidextrous "Creative" Accountant may acquire the skill to change a light bulb that has stopped working, and several Autoparts businesses provide this service to their customers.

The only knowledge I had of "Sirius" is the vexation I experienced from deleting two years' worth of incoming emails soliciting funds for a membership renewal. I have never taken the time to understand the purpose of a "subscription" because I never use the radio in the first place. I would want to have CDs that I have selected or complete quiet, please.

Brakes are simply a mechanism for slowing or stopping a vehicle. Any business that is able to pass a state inspection is capable of servicing any brand of vehicle that comes through their doors. There are no more challenging components to find and unusual requirements for this vehicle compared to any other. Additionally, the technicians encounter troublesome designs on other complicated vehicles often.

JLR does not own a patent on the term "weird". Certain motor vehicles need to be removed and crushed as a matter of principle, in fact. Accomplished just that. On several occasions. Desired to avoid any potential legal responsibility arising from reselling as "used".

The true challenge is in locating proficient workforce.

What you want is not so much a "shop" but rather the expertise of a single experienced individual, such as someone from JLR or any other suitable candidate.

The race, gender, and political affiliation of a motorcar are not significant obstacles. An individual who is familiar with German or Japanese luxury automobiles, and preferably JLR, has an advantage. However, a former Diesel mechanic who has shown the capacity to locate and use knowledge is the most crucial competence. No one is inherently born with "the knowledge". We must get it and consistently update it for every new vehicle, model-year, or subsystem as necessary. Perpetual exercise, indeed.

It is very advantageous to maintain the same vehicle for an extended period of time, as it simplifies the process of replacing parts rather than making it more challenging.

Rovers are distinct or dissimilar. That is different from "inscrutable", much alone "magical".

Perform the mathematical calculations. Create a strategy to determine the anticipated duration of the return on an investment. It has the potential to be one, if you choose to make it such.

Then, diligently search for what you need. The availability of the product in your town or county is uncertain.

Alternatively, you might accept the potential loss and anticipate the possibility of making equally imprudent expenditures on whatever alternative you decide to acquire.

Choosing pre-owned vehicles that have a desirable combination of remaining quality and functionality is far more challenging than repairing them. Requires enhanced capacity to see both historical events and future occurrences. What is the concept of a mental "time machine"?

Or maybe a more comprehensive and meticulous preliminary investigation?

In a world when uninformed electric bicycles can fetch prices of $2,000, have you not considered that an ancient Range Rover - filled with several computer systems, with more wiring and advanced technology than a cold-war guided missile - could need more than a simple cleaning?

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I am certain that there is a member of the site from Jackson, TN who can direct you to a trustworthy and skilled independent professional.
Absolutely avoid going to a dealer for any servicing work under any circumstances. Referring to them as thieves would be an affront to all criminals who possess a sense of self-respect.
Remain hopeful. You have been well deceived and your budget should provide a substantial portion of the funds to solve the challenges they assert need attention.

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That might be too severe?

Regardless of their preference, a dealership is obligated to maintain a larger physical establishment, employ more staff, regularly invest in training and equipment upgrades, pay higher taxes and utility costs, bear greater expenses for inventory management, advertising, sales, management, and administration, incur more expensive insurance premiums, and face a multitude of other costs. Additionally, dealerships are subject to more stringent regulations, increased legal liability, and contractual obligations regarding the sourcing of parts for vehicles, including the approved methods of installation.

An independent store incurs expenses as well, but often requires less physical space, resulting in cheaper taxes and utilities, a reduced number of employees, and more flexibility in cost management.

Do not overlook or neglect. Do independent stores sometimes overcharge customers? Undoubtedly, it occurs.

Is it possible for your task, or another customer's job, which is unrelated, to encounter significant difficulties and need rework, maybe several times?

Those expenses must be accounted for and distributed evenly as part of the total "burden" as well.

TANSTAAFL stands for "There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch."

It is not primarily a matter of honesty.

The discrepancies lie in the complete and comprehensive recovery of costs.

Not limited just to JLR motor vehicles.
This applies not just to "luxury" automobiles, but also to other types of vehicles.
Not restricted just to autos.

The majority of items in an economy incur "fully burdened costs" that need to be recuperated.

Some individuals are just more conspicuous than others.

Or more exasperating?

It is important to remember that dealer repair bays are seldom unoccupied and usually need a pre-scheduled appointment.

Not all of their consumers are affluent and unintelligent.

Certain individuals may be eligible for warranty coverage only.
Some repairs are charged at the full amount.
Are some individuals attending just for the purpose of obtaining complimentary alcoholic beverages, engaging in sexual activities, or using illicit substances?

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