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LR defender 200tdi or TD5 defender?


SkippyTom

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Hi everybody,

At the end of the year, I want to get a Land Rover Defender 90 as my first automobile since I grew up with them and they are the best option for my location. I will be hauling up to 3.5 tonnes on a regular basis and driving 45 minutes each way on highways three times a week to go to and from school. I like off-roading and living in the country, where there are many hills with slopes of 33 percent or more.

My previous thread asking a similar topic became too long, so I'm reposting it here, where the focus is squarely on the power plants.

I have a question for you all:

- why a 200tdi, - why a TD5, and - why not either?

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Hi

I'm new here, and I just went through the agony of choosing between the 200tdi/300tdi and the TD5. I ended up going with the TD5, thanks to some good advice from other Defender owners and companies that specialise in tuning Defenders. I chose it because you can easily increase its power by mapping, blocking/removing EGR, changing the radiator, etc., without breaking the bank.

I'm not a tech and I don't know much about how the 200tdi would do with other changes, but if you get a good remap and fix the EGR on a TD5, you'll be good to go. One thing I'd say about pulling, especially 3.5 tonnes, is that you should make sure the engine and frame are both stable. If the back cross-member is broken or has already been fixed, you might want to move on to the next one.

Good luck with your search, and I'm sure someone else will be able to help you out soon.

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Just now, badgx said:

Hi

I'm new here, and I just went through the agony of choosing between the 200tdi/300tdi and the TD5. I ended up going with the TD5, thanks to some good advice from other Defender owners and companies that specialise in tuning Defenders. I chose it because you can easily increase its power by mapping, blocking/removing EGR, changing the radiator, etc., without breaking the bank.

I'm not a tech and I don't know much about how the 200tdi would do with other changes, but if you get a good remap and fix the EGR on a TD5, you'll be good to go. One thing I'd say about pulling, especially 3.5 tonnes, is that you should make sure the engine and frame are both stable. If the back cross-member is broken or has already been fixed, you might want to move on to the next one.

Good luck with your search, and I'm sure someone else will be able to help you out soon.

Thankyou! I'll keep a look out for the chassis, but I believe you're correct when you state that the TD5 is probably the best choice for meeting my requirements.

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If cared for correctly, a 200tdi engine is so well constructed that it will last forever.
Overengineering was cut down on the 300tdi, but it's still a powerful engine.
Td5's motor is much more refined, but it's not perfect. Once the problems that LR intentionally introduced are fixed, however, it has the potential to be a game-changer.
Personally, I miss the original 200tdi.

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I love the 200tdi engine, but for daily towing and driving on the highway, the TD5 is your best friend and a great engine. However, I would be more concerned with the state of any vehicle I might buy than with the engine. Condition is the most important thing, because there are some real dumps out there.

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I now have two 200Tdis and a 300Tdi in the past.

The Td5 is a superior engine dynamically in every respect. Anyone who tells you otherwise has presumably never driven one. The Td5-powered automobiles with problems that have nothing to do with the engine make up a large portion of the news.

I'm not going to pretend it doesn't have any flaws. Not many vehicles' motors can make that claim. However, several instances of really well-worn ones may be found. Therefore, it seems that they are long-lasting for many people.

Have you also done your caravan test if this is your first vehicle?

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Just now, SkippyTom said:

It's not a problem because I'll be taking my caravan test soon after my driving test. Then do you think the TD5 is the best choice?

They are substantially more refined and hence much more suitable for extensive road usage. They're also more strong and react well to alterations.

The Tdi's are fantastic. One of mine is substantially altered, while the other is not. The power delivery is excellent. However, the Td5s provide far more power. With a few modifications, the Td5 can provide more than 50% more power to the wheels.

However, a Td5 will most likely cost a little more for a similar condition car. The bodywork isn't any thinner gauge either, and it rots just as badly as a Tdi on the cross member.

ABS and TCS are also available on the Td5. The ABS may come in helpful if you tow a lot, and the TCS improves off-road performance significantly. But since it was a choice, not everyone had it. The TCS, on the other hand, isn't much. Even without a Defender, this vehicle is fantastic off-road.

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