ChatMaven Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 I've been looking around for a new family car but haven't found much that I like. Requirements are: Hybrid or Petrol Good-sized trunk (more than 550L) 5 door Isofix 0-62mph <10s Parking sensors Not very long (about 4.7m). Nice interior A quiet and smooth ride <£40k Android Auto Reliable (maybe hybrids have more things that can go wrong?) I drive about 9,000 miles a year, which is mostly a mix of small trips on the highway and around town, as well as longer trips and vacations. Because of the outbreak, the current numbers aren't as high as they could be. Content to wait The Toyota Corolla Touring Sports Icon Tech 2.0 might work, but I don't know much about them. Skoda Octavia Estate is another option, but we're moving towards the Toyota because we'll use it for some short trips and like the idea of a hybrid (plug-in hybrids or full electrics aren't really an option because our garage/parking space isn't right next to our house). Has anyone tried out the new Corolla Estate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WordSmith Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 For the last two years, my vehicle of choice has been an Auris hybrid. Toyota hybrids have fewer moving parts, which means fewer potential failure points. They do not include a turbocharger, dual-mass flywheels, clutch, sophisticated DSG gearbox, starting motor, or alternator. Planetary gearboxes are typically single-speed devices. The hybrid technology takes care of the rest, and it's the same basic idea behind over twenty years' worth of Prius models. They're dependable across long distances, as your neighbourhood Uber drivers can confirm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEERMAN Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 I own a 1.8 model (with a slightly larger trunk due to the battery being in the front). Completely dull and uninteresting to drive, particularly with the CVT gearbox, but absolutely flawless and dependable for family duties. It consumes an absurd amount of matter. My major comments: Even the base model has adaptive cruise control and lane assist (lane assist isn't as effective as other cars I've driven, but it's more than capable of steering in stop-and-go traffic and on motorways). It seems to be impeded by roadworks and other surfaces with unclear lines). This option is so costly on some models. Excellent posterior space for isofix seats; both our rear-facing and forward-facing seats fit perfectly. Disappointed it lacks front Isofix, which other models are beginning to incorporate. I believe it is standard, but ours came with a cargo net and other rear accoutrements. Apple CarPlay operates flawlessly (though not wirelessly), so I never use the in-car entertainment system. Average 65mpg with no conscious effort, and up to 75mpg with modest economy driving (although this is the 1.8). The air conditioning is powered by the hybrid battery, whereas the furnace requires the engine; therefore, the winter-to-summer difference in fuel economy can be significant; however, I've never achieved less than 65mpg in 10,000 miles of driving. The Toyota/Lexus hybrids appear to have an exceptional reputation for dependability and have remarkably low operating expenses. The previous model of the Auris seems to be at the top of the charts for minimal depreciation, so I am hopeful that this will be the case as well. The Auris hybrid is highly susceptible to cat theft, whereas the Corolla's catalytic converter is located closer to the exhaust manifold, making it less accessible, and I haven't heard the same terror stories. The height of the adjustable floor is set to the flat position. Additionally, there is ample stowage underneath the floor. There are buttons in the trunk for folding down the rear seats without having to stroll around. It destroys my spirit as a driving enthusiast, but meets all requirements for transporting the family. I cannot therefore criticise. We used to have an EV, but the charging became too much of a hassle with a newborn/young child when we were out and about; driving this vehicle is just as soothing. We have not yet exceeded the capacity, despite transporting a preposterous amount of items. If you have any specific queries, I'll do my best to answer them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Since I'm a bit hungover, feel free to ask me anything I forgot to mention about my very short time with an Excel-spec 2.0 Corolla Estate Hybrid. My current car is a Honda Civic 1.8 gas estate. It has a lot of space and a 620-liter trunk, which has been great, but I hate the engine. It's not very powerful for the size of the car and would be better in a smaller hatchback, so I've been wanting to get rid of it. Back in August, I went to look at the Corolla. Its trunk is a bit smaller than the Civic's, and when I looked at it closely, the loading area also seemed a bit smaller. However, it's still a good-sized estate, and I don't think it would be a problem for my family of four, which includes two young children. I liked how it looked. It's a very nice-looking estate, and on the higher trims with the bigger wheels, Toyota has finally started putting the wheels more flush with the chassis and getting rid of the huge gap between the wheel arches. The 2.0 also has a nice twin exhaust trim that is subtle but obvious. The inside of I was surprised by how nice and solid it was, but I've usually only owned Japanese cars and don't know much about German cabins. It was sturdy and well-organized, and the seats on the Excel and GR models are great. They look nice and are very comfy, which is surprising to me because I have a hard time getting comfortable in anything. If you have been driving from a manual, I now know I definitely want an automatic. I don't know if it's because I'm getting older, but the box was easy to use and I really liked it. However, I've never used DSG or anything like that, so I don't know how it compares to those. The hybrid system was great. It switched between the electric motor and the gas engine, and the only way to tell which one it was using was to look at the screen. Only 40 bhp more than my present car in terms of performance, but it felt lighter, more grounded, and the response was miles ahead of my Civic. It was great, and I was honestly surprised that it only had 180 bhp. When I got back in my Civic, it felt like a dinosaur, and I'd really like to get a Corolla soon, but with work being unsure and used cars being so expensive, I just can't justify it. Hope that helps a little I don't do well with writing like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WordSmith Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Having previously driven a hot hatch and having spent several years in the Auris, I concur. It's more of a comfort-oriented conveyance than a B-road stormer. I didn't choose this, but I'm happy to have it. Since it has been on the road for four years, only scheduled maintenance has occurred. Interested in testing out the 180-hp Corolla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt865 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 I just bought one as a family car and part-time PHV. At first glance, it looks great. The car is useful, gets a lot of miles per gallon, and comes with good tools as standard. People have said that the car looks cool, and my family seems to like it. I looked at the Mercedes c350e, the Toyota Prius, and other cars, but this one seemed to be the best fit. Toyota makes solid cars, and since I had a Lexus for a short time, I thought it would be best to be safe. Because they have more room than Priuses, a lot of PHV drivers are getting them instead. I'd recommend getting one. My car has a pan roof, which looks great and makes the inside feel more open. Though it might be risky if you plan to carry things on the roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt865 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Most likely, the Seat Leon e-Hybrid is the finest alternative? Or, a Suzuki Swace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigbelont Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Even though the Toyota e-CVT might be a technological win, how does it feel in terms of power delivery, safety, and passing? Does it give torque quickly? like a dsg with buttons, or do the revs go up and the power comes on slowly? Plugin octavia (and even leon/passat phev) will continue to charge from the gasoline engine and can use the plugin away from home/holidays/free supermarket trips - therefore, it is more versatile and depreciates less. This is the acceleration of the Skoda Superb iV Plug-In Hybrid 2020/2021 (1.4 l R4 TSI petrol engine + electric, 160 kW, 218 HP, 400 Nm, FWD, 6-speed DSG from 0 to 60 miles per hour, 0 to 100 kilometres per hour, 0 to 140 kilometres per hour, and 0 to 200 kilometres per hour (up to top/max speed). Results: 0-60 mph: 0-100 km/h in 6.75 seconds 0-140 km/h in 12.5 seconds 0-100 mph in 16.5 seconds 0-200 km/h in 28.5 seconds 0-225 (140 mph) km/h in 45.1 seconds (top/max speed). 80-120 km/h in 4.1 s Toyota Corolla 2.0L Hybrid 2019/2020 (2.0 l R4 gasoline engine + electric, 132 kW, 180 HP, FWD, e-CVT acceleration from 0-60 mph, 0-100 km/h, 0-140 km/h, and 0-185 km/h (up to top/max speed). 0-60 mph: 7.8 seconds 0-100 km/h: 8.2 seconds 0-140 km/h: 15.1 seconds 0-100 mph: 20.1 seconds 0-185 km/h (maximum GPS speed): 28.4 seconds 80-120 km/h: 5.2 seconds 70-140 km/h: 10.0 seconds Compared to stellaris peugeot phevs, the beautiful, new 308sw appear to be relatively untested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt865 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 In the Corolla, it's easy to pass other cars. Power is fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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